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Threejack

02/12/06 11:47 AM

#7903 RE: Nicdagreek #7902

re: a neophyte company with limited patents in DRAM is being compared to a technological collossus with thousands of patents covering almost every aspect of software and hardware made in the past 50 years.


Hey Nic,

Is the sheer number of patents issued to a company part of the calculation of value for any one patent invented by the company?

Believe Mr. Hughes and others have stated certain of Rambus's patents are fundamental to all DRAM. If this is proven true, won't this fact be more important to the potential royalty rate Rambus can charge than the number of patents issued to Rambus, regardless of its neophyte status as a company?

Threejack
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justmyopinion-ntim

02/12/06 6:38 PM

#7912 RE: Nicdagreek #7902

I think you are wasting time here using facts and logic. If it doesn't come from the Rambus playbook or official dogma, it is pretty much Chinese to many.

No, I think that if it comes from you nic, it is discounted as fud, or likely to be wrong, based on your past record of bias and error.

Many now have deluded themselves to the point where they think Whyte is going to believe that Rambus is now equivalent to IBM and so they can charge the same rates (1 - 5%). Unbelievable, a neophyte company with limited patents in DRAM is being compared to a technological collossus with thousands of patents covering almost every aspect of software and hardware made in the past 50 years.

Isn't that the company that you earlier said fooled Jedec, and pulled the wool over the industry's eyes? Now they are neophyte company? The fact that they are small doesn't change the fact they figured out how to make synchronous memory transfer work. It was a revolutionary change, worth what Rambus is asking in royalties.

The real question is why are you even bothering now to try and convince us and the yahoo's that Rambus' inventions are now worth less than they were previously asking? Your agenda is so blatant as to be laughable.
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stratertele

02/13/06 12:01 AM

#7919 RE: Nicdagreek #7902

<<<I think you are wasting time here using facts and logic. If it doesn't come from the Rambus playbook or official dogma, it is pretty much Chinese to many.>>>

Greek,

Don't speak for the board, speak for only yourself.

stratertele
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smd1234

02/13/06 3:03 AM

#7929 RE: Nicdagreek #7902

Nic,
I think you are sending a mixed message:

the reality is it must be measured objectively within the context of what value it provides to the licensee.
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if anyone thinks Whyte/jury is going to equate Rambus with IBM they are going to be severely disappointed. ... If anything, showing this "evidence" to a jury of what the largest company in the world charges for their entire massive portfolio is going to backfire IMO.

What are you saying, that the size of the patentee matters, or is it the value to the licensee that matters?

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r: NicdaGreek | Date: 2/12/06 12:40 PM | Number: 122837

Think about it: Rambus' "limited patents in a narrow field" are far more important to its survival than a boat-load of patents from decades back from a "technological collossus".

You remind me of the SNL skit some years ago, where the pawnshop paid "
Full sentimental value" for all used goods. Its nice to think something is critical to you, but the reality is it must be measured objectively within the context of what value it provides to the licensee. The value to a party to have a full license from IBM covering a hundred different technologies is an order of magnitude greater than the comparable value they get from Rambus in a limited field. I don't see the "IBM" angle helping them at all.

Da Greek
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Author: NicdaGreek | Date: 2/12/06 12:11 PM | Number: 122835
1548. The IBM Worldwide Licensing Policy sets forth royalty rates tfom 1-5% of sellng price:

I'm sorry, but, if anyone thinks Whyte/jury is going to equate Rambus with IBM they are going to be severely disappointed. One is a young upstart with limited patents in a narrow field (DRAM/memory controllers) and the other is a technological collossus with thousands of patents covering almost every aspect of software and hardware made in the past 50 years.

If anything, showing this "evidence" to a jury of what the largest company in the world charges for their entire massive portfolio is going to backfire IMO.

Da Greek