Yep Joe...its not an issue worthy of debate...too much info we will never be privy to...I will say tho that my average pip count per week has risen considerably since I started working with S/D zones and the belief that the zones are a telltale evidence of banks influence I see in those zones.For me working with the S/D zones chart has taken 90% of the guessing game out of the equation.I'm so enamored with zone trading now I wonder how I traded without them(LOL)