Talk is cheap, Carl Icahn doesn't have any skin in the game, and everybody is trying to read between the line when they should read the bold print. Carl said the same thing that the analyst said "bright future, over priced so I'll sit on the side lines". And here is some more free advice, volume is dropping and so are the post on the message boards. Three weeks ago there was 50+ message before 10a.m. And now there may be 25 for the whole day. I guess the new car smell is wearing off and the payments are gonna start showing up on the 5th.