Red Angus, it is always nice to read your posts, I have been and will be long, my retirement is invested in this stock, if I had some more loose change, I would buy some more VRNG'S shares. We, all got into this investment thinking we were going to make some quick dollars, the way is turning out it may have been the best investment of my life. I, look at is from the positive side, we have a spanish saying, and this goes directly to HJJ ("There is no illness that last 100 years or a body that can take it") we will wait for the 20's and the 30's. Have the Merriest of Christmas everyone. GLTA