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arizona1

12/10/13 12:13 AM

#214752 RE: wow_happens28 #214751

I don't get how a man, Obama, who is half black and half white can try to turn a man who is half Latino and half White into a White man and not be called a racist against Latino's

ummmmm...Maybe because the 'half Latino and half White' psychopath murdered an unarmed 'all black teenager' in cold blood on a dark and rainy night in FL.

Can you list the amount of times GZ has been arrested in his life? No googling!!!!

dbleagl

12/10/13 12:19 AM

#214754 RE: wow_happens28 #214751

I keep reading your stuff on here 8th and all I can say is that has to be some bad acid...really whacked man....LOL

F6

12/10/13 6:42 AM

#214782 RE: wow_happens28 #214751

the_8th -- not the only thing you don't get

profiling and directing disaffection at a young black male in the manner little Georgie clearly did with Trayvon is hardly something only an all-white guy (or gal) can do -- and Obama's never in any way said or intimated anything otherwise -- so with that premise you're just swatting at your own open fly to begin with

but to go further anyway and actually touch on the immediately-relevant facts/context -- in particular in Florida, the reality is and long has been that there are all too many (wannabe all-white/'oh no, we're different, we're better than them') folks among those of in particular Cuban Hispanic derivation (see Marco Rubio, see also Ted Cruz) who (trying to fully 'belong') are as racist against blacks as our tried and true all-white racists

([linked in} http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=93991212 and preceding and following, also http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=94811378 and preceding [and any future following], http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=94809067 and preceding and following)

fuagf

12/10/13 7:32 AM

#214784 RE: wow_happens28 #214751

One on your "liberal media" bias conservative meme, have you seen this one?

New Study Shows U.S. Media Has Been More Critical of Obama than Bush
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=94087908

.. also, on your Zimmerman protection society .. consider ..

If The President Could Have Been Trayvon, Could You Be A Zimmerman?

7/21/2013 @ 1:15PM |5,130 views


Official photographic portrait of US President Barack Obama (born 4 August
1961; assumed office 20 January 2009) (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The only way to have a conversation about race that does not get co-opted and polarized by politicians is to have the conversation. So, I’d like to bring up a question: If as President Obama said “Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago” could you, or I, have been George Zimmerman? My answer—and I hope to hear yours—includes psychological factors both disturbing and optimistic. Disturbing because implicit or unconscious racial bias is still pervasive regardless of conscious attitudes. Optimistic because we do not have to act on the automatic firing of these biases. We can think and use good judgment; by not taking feelings to be facts and by reflecting before acting we really can encourage the better angels of our nature.

Implicit racial biases rage against black men everywhere. The President cited how they operate in his experience: black men followed in stores, women clutching their handbags when a black man enters an elevator, car doors clicking locked when a black man walks across the street.

Social science research backs him up. Let me cite just a few recent articles documenting racial biases in different domains: discrimination in hiring decisions .. http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/apl/90/3/553.html , conversations between doctors and patients .. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277953613001780 , law-enforcement shooting decisions .. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1434233 , and even cross-race generosity .. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X11000329.

[ the_8th, please at least glance at each link ]

Don’t fall into the trap of thinking that these racial biases only live in the minds of others. No one is exempt. If you lie down in wet paint you’re going to get dirty and given America’s racial context, well, implicit racial biases are pretty much inevitable. For a personal experience go to the Project Implicit website .. https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/ .. and take the Race Bias test. When I took the test I scored the same as 70% of people on the web-site. I showed an automatic preference for White people compared to Black people. In fact, I was in the top 27% who showed a strong automatic preference. And this is so despite strong conscious attitudes and behaviors favoring equality.

Unconscious racial biases are apparently everywhere, even among professionals trained not to exhibit them and in contexts designed to eliminate their influence. Given this pervasive power is it any wonder that an untrained, angry man with an agenda and a gun in his waist-band noticed a young black man, a child really, walking through his community and immediately felt threatened? And this biased perception is understandable. He had no control over it. However, this does not make Zimmerman less responsible; it makes him more. He should have known better than to act on a biased perception. He should have known that a feeling is not a fact, that his mind was creating a threat of criminal intent, and that no responsible adult should act on what is essentially a psychological illusion.

Unconscious racist biases do not make you a bad person. They are not a source of shame. They are for those raised in this place and at this time nearly inevitable. The source of my optimism, and what partly differentiates us from Zimmerman, is that they are also an opportunity for self-knowledge, however uncomfortable that knowledge may be.

Zimmerman’s shame is not that he felt Treyvon was a threat. The problem is that he believed his biased feelings accurately represented reality. He should have called them into question. His shame, and the source of this tragedy, is not what happened to him unconsciously. It was his mindless acceptance of his bias. Even a modicum of self-awareness would have saved the life of a promising young man. And Florida’s shame is arming such a man, empowering him to stand his ground.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/toddessig/2013/07/21/if-the-president-could-have-been-trayvon-could-you-be-a-zimmerman/

.. note, also ..

4 Big Lies The Right Loves To Tell About The George Zimmerman Trial
http://www.liberalamerica.org/2013/07/18/four-big-lies-the-right-loves-to-tell-about-the-george-zimmerman-trial/

sortagreen

12/10/13 11:23 AM

#214811 RE: wow_happens28 #214751

"can try to turn a man who is half Latino and half White into a White man "

Perhaps it's because Spain is in Europe, and people of Spanish descent are Caucasians.

Hence on job apps, you can check off "White, Hispanic" or White, Non-Hispanic". Note that both are considered white. George is a white guy.

Just throwin' it out there.