yes, it's a shame about the pvsp situation. you may have heard a good explanation from owlman earlier, that gave his credible analisys (SP) of the chart and our {PVSP} dire stance. i went back and looked at my etrade dep. for the yr, that went to buying, and avg down and i got to 8,000.00 and said omg. what have i done. HAHA...now i'm stuck with all my other pvsp bagholders....only 50% down.