right, CCI, but you may have missed or not understood "frontier" investments. these are the people taking the biggest chances, investing in emerging market debt, for instance. they have battalions of people scouring the internets for places to risk money because their clients equate big risk with big reward. not institutional investors in general, but these folks - I'd bet that their high-tech people know DSNY, in fact Fidelity owns over 1M shares, so how obscure are we actually talking.