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CombJelly

01/23/06 9:39 AM

#70055 RE: rupert #70054

"but here, in Mexico, Walmart sells more Intel-based than AMD."

Probably the same here.

Lidl and Aldi are two big chains in Germany. Their model is different than most US stores. You don't have a huge selection of merchandise. So this notebook is likely the only notebook offered at Lidl. So, in this case, they are exclusively AMD.
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aleph0

01/23/06 9:55 AM

#70057 RE: rupert #70054

Apart from the German WhiteBoxMakers ( massively dominant in Germany ), the well-known "local" stores that most people here go to for PCs are IMO :

Atelco - mainly AMD notebooks on display, Intel offered as well
Vobis - mixed
Saturn - mainly if not only Intel notebooks
Media-Markt - mainly Intel notebooks
Staples - now selling many AMD based notebooks

Supermarkets for PCs are....
Aldi - mainly AMD, but also Intel
Lidl - mainly AMD, but also Intel
Plus - mixed IIRC


The "Top-12 sellers" list at Atelco-Online is IMO a good indicator ( today .. 6 of 12 = AMD ) :

01 - AMD/ATELCO 4home! Sempron 2800+ 64-bit,512MB,80GB,DVD-Brenner
02 - AMD/ATELCO 4gamez! Athlon64 X2 3800+,1024MB, 250GB, 256MB VGA
03 - Samsung X20 XVM 1730 V 15",1024MB ,DVD-Brenner,80 GB
04 - Asus Z 9266 VA Pentium M 2,0GH15,4" WXGA,80GB,1024MB,ATIX700
05 - Samsung Samtron 73V (Silver) 17", TCO99, 16ms
06 - AMD/ATELCO 4media! Athlon64 3200+ 1024MB, 160GB HDD, 256MB VGA
07 - AMD/Acer Aspire 3003 WLMI 15,4"WXGA,80GB,1024MB,DVD-Dual
08 - AMD/ Athlon64 FX-60 "in-a-box" 2x1024kB,0,09u,S.939 "Toledo"
09 - Samsung SyncMaster 940B 19", TCO03, DVI, 8ms
10 - AMD/ Athlon64 X2 4400+ "box" 2x1024KB, 200 MHz FSB, S.939
11 - XFX 7800GT Extreme Gamer PCIe NVIDIA 7800GT, 256MB,lightret.
12 - Sony KDL-V32A11E LCD-TV Bravia 32", HDTV,inkl. DVB-T Receiver

Normally there are ALWAYS at least 6 AMD products in the Top-12. Fluctuates between 6-8 !
I haven't seen a single Intel Desktop for ca. 6 months in the list !

They update the list every day !!
...http://www1.atelco.de/6AArisjiuiVNfz/1/toparticle.jsp


My observations on WhiteBoxMakers in Germany :

Most of the German PC Mags are full of AMD WBMer Desktop offerings - ca. 90% I would say - minimum !
WBMer notebooks, ca. 20% AMD.
WBMer servers, ca. 15% AMD.

My local WBMer is a friend of mine; sells ca. 98% AMD.
Gets many repeat orders for AMD based servers with Opteron.
He's also Long in AMD - and also wonders where Intel makes it's unit sales !
He presumes it must be Dell and large corporate orders !