F6 .. point well made, agree 100% .. and hope previous posts over time are good evidence that i'm not fudging with that statement .. yup, for sure .. i remember hesitating over the word "moral" there, then left it as a better one didn't come .. 'accepted' would have been at least a bit more suitable .. your first link shows yet another area in which more action hopefully will follow .. your second link is further evidence of the pall of patriarchy which still shrouds so much of our somewhat sick and sordid world .. like rape ..
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