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roni

12/29/05 6:58 PM

#47616 RE: tomm #47614

Schiller, marketing, backlash, etc...

One would hope that Apple has learned some lessons since introducing the iPod for Windows. The specific lesson would be that increasing the pool of potential customers can increase hardware sales.

I will always have a Mac at home. I will never have one at work, unless.....I can boot XP on it and run SAS for Windows and SurveyPro on it. If Apple came out with a machine that could boot to Windows and the cost differential between it and a Windows box was not too great, I think I could pretty easily make the case that the college should buy one for me.

While I am a unique being, I am sure there are many others out there. I hypothesize that Apple will significantly reduce its sales if they lock out other OSs on their new Intel hardware. I sure hope they can find a way to control the installation of OS X on non-Apple boxes.

Apple should control when they want to sell OS X to Dell, HP and other boxmakers :)
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langostino

12/29/05 10:06 PM

#47627 RE: tomm #47614

perhaps so ...

then again, I think it's safe to say a fair number of the usual suspects that have the biggest voices in the press and around the 'net would probably write less than glowingly if that was what Apple elected to do.

Still, all else being equal, the odds favor Apple doing what Schiller said it would do. Given the importance and sensitivity of the question, it seems unlikely that Schiller would have commented without it having been discussed and decided at HQ.

I guess I see plenty to lose, and basically nothing to gain by creating a proprietary MoBo that won't run Windows. Why exactly would they do that?

My own guess is that while it won't happen now, it won't be far down the road before Apple has pre-install options for Windows and one or two Linux flavors. Ditto for letting OS X head out into the broader x86 universe with a blessing and a pricetag. They'll start with a "prohibition," which will, of course, be cracked in a matter of days, surreptitiously circumvented across a broad spectrum. Apple will haul a few egregious P2Pers into court and scorch them -- most likely one or more of the bittorrent sites that charge people for entrance to their seed stashes. And they'll probably nail a few average joe seeders while they're at it.

But ultimately, once the tide really gets flowing, and Apple has gotten a good idea of how to handle activitation and keys, etc., it will reverse course, let it be legitimate and start cashing in. This might or might not coincide with a major deal with HP, Dell or Lenovo.

That's when the game really changes.
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nickeltong

12/29/05 10:19 PM

#47629 RE: tomm #47614

Tomm: I don't see any reason why

Apple would try to keep Windows, Linux or any other OSs, that can run on Intel system from booting in a Mactel. In fact, one of the features Apple touted to switchers was that a Mac can also do Windows with the help of an app sold separately of course. Being able to boot other OSs can only be a plus for Apple:- the risk of switching platform will become lower among switchers and existing Mac users could purchase Macs to do their PC stuff. Apple's only problem is keeping other PCs from running OSX.