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DoughDiligence

07/28/13 1:24 PM

#105 RE: Justfactsmam #104

Check the Home Depot website. Small camping fuels are available in store. Butane lighter cartridges, Propane camping fuels, all sorts of diesel merchandise including fuel stabilizers (although no diesel since you can get that from a gas station).

The only thing close to methanol is the denatured alcohol that is mostly ethanol with some methanol mixture to make it toxic and other crap to make it nauseating to smell or taste.

No retail outlets sell methanol in its pure form. There may be laws to prevent methanol and ethanol from being available to the general public. The denatured alcohol products developed out of those laws. According to Wikipedia, the denatured alcohol solution is not just a US solution. It is a worldwide standard in many developed countries.

Unfortunately for MKTY, a direct methanol fuel cell probably needs pure methanol to operate. So there lies a problem for them. They have to use sealed containers and get those products approved for transporting and selling to make there system work.

Maybe they can eventually sell their methanol cartridges in Home Depot like the butane cartridges for lighters.

DoughDiligence

07/28/13 1:55 PM

#106 RE: Justfactsmam #104

Found California laws on Methanol fuels:

'The M-100 fuel methanol at ambient conditions must have a distinctive and noxious taste,for purposes of preventing purposeful or inadvertent human consumption. Applicable 1/1/95.'

'The M-100 fuel methanol upon vaporization at ambient conditions must have a distinctive odor potent enough for its presence to be detected down to a concentration in air of not over 1/5 (one-fifth) of the lower limit of flammability. Applicable 1/1/95.'

http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/altfuels/regs/altregs.pdf

It appears that taste and smell additives are required wherever it might be sold.