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06/13/13 12:42 AM

#286 RE: MoneyJames #285

With all that has been coming out lately, Nothing would suprise me 'MJ'. But I want to say that you sure have your finger on that pulse.That's good work.Maybe the U.S.A needs a low price for gold.Sounds like it to me. All hell could break loose at 1425. Negative press abounds and now privilege to 'elite' traders has come to the surface (they ran the story nationwide on public television this evening). I wonder how much government union pension fund monies are represented by these 'elite traders'.I have said this once and say it again, that it was a 'flash trade' that took gold to 1325 so quickly, and I know they were hoping to create panic along with negative press to drive the price even way lower.But it appears that it didn't work for now and at 1425 the 'short trade' has to cover. We obviously are closer to 1425 than 1000 as 'they' had hoped for. These are turning point days for sure and markets are wobbling.Gold is gold.

gharma

06/13/13 2:45 AM

#287 RE: MoneyJames #285

"Thoughts?" you asked. You outline the exact scenario that lead to the historic crashes of the different banking systems throughout US history, i.e. people went to get their money due to growing mistrust, and of course each bank only had so much cash at any one time, which resulted in the inability to honor the withdrawal requests, which fueled more mistrust, even becoming distrust, which brought greater demands for cash withdrawals, etc. etc. etc.
We all know that history. Just remember that the last such major run on the banks in the US happened when there were gold certificates, and all notes were exchangeable on demand at the US Treasury into gold and/or silver.
Today, the issue is that the "middleman" is a paper tiger, the currency is not involved in the real value system, and the level of trust in the values of the metals is being manipulated, which is not surprising given the decades prior to 2007 during which gold/silver is/were black sheep in the language of the vast majority of the investment community. The management of the image is very long standing, but today it is requiring some very sizable paper liquidity risk to enforce.
All the same, when confidence in other value stores erodes, and confidence in the ability to make value withdrawals (i.e. obtain physical gold) erodes, then what is to stop a run on this bank? The crowd mentality is the same century after century.