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NoBigDeal

05/28/13 11:30 PM

#42323 RE: Twilson #42315

That's exactly right, now to end the C Ship and claim victory for a job well done!
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afxm

05/28/13 11:47 PM

#42335 RE: Twilson #42315

Yes Sir ! And who are Head CheerLeaders to eliminate F&F ? The Banks and Congressional Members in thier pockets !

"The facts don't support the argument that Fannie and Freddie caused the financial crisis". The Facts do support this. The Real Cause for the Financial Crisis:
The GRAMM-Leach-Bliley Act, also known as the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, Pub.L. 106-102, 113 Stat. 1338, enacted November 12, 1999, is an Act of the United States Congress which repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, opening up competition among banks, securities companies and insurance companies.

This Glass-Steagall Act prevented a bank from offering investment, commercial banking, and insurance services under one roof. When you combine these three there is too much temptation for GREED to infiltrate those services and
History had proven this to be An Absolute Fact... Twice.


Senator Phil Gramm, As Chairman of the SENATE BANKING COMMITTEE, Constructed and passed deregulatory legislation in 1999 that ABOLISHED SAFEGAURDS ESTABISHED BY The Glass-Steagall Act of 1933... those put in place to prevent another world economic crises like the "THE GREAT DEPRESSION" from ever happening again.

PHIL Gramm's legislation Eliminated the 'Depression era', PREMIER BANKING REGUALTION THAT SEPARATED COMMERCIAL BANKING FROM INVESTMENT BANKING

PHIL GRAMM ALSO WROTE LEGISLATION THAT DEREGULATED ENERGY COMMODITY TRADING.
***REMEMBER ENRON AND THE ROLLING BLACKOUTS IN CALIFORNIA....

***PHIL GRAMM'S WIFE, WENDY GRAMM, WAS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF ENRON

The blame for the Fiancial Crisis rests with four people and 2 groups, imo.
(1)Senator Phil Gramm (R-Texas), Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee
(2)House Rep. Jim Leach (R-Iowa)
(3)Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R-Virginia), Chairman of the House Commerce Committee
(4)President Bill Clinton who signed into law The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which allowed commercial banks, investment banks, securities firms and insurance companies to consolidate.
(5)Every Congressman & Senator who voted in favor of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999

When Phil Gramm left the senate he became the VP of Financial Services for Swiss Bank Giant {UBS}.
Lobbying disclosure forms, filed by {UBS}, lists PHIL GRAMM, as a lobbyist dealing with legislation regarding the MORTGAGE INDUSTRY.
*** Phil Gramm was paid in excess of $2M for this service.
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afxm

05/29/13 12:13 AM

#42363 RE: Twilson #42315

Michael Barr, then Treasury's assistant secretary for financial institutions,
Brushed Off a (- Proposal by the { U.S. Mortgage BANKERS Association } to revamp housing finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac by creating several smaller, { PRIVATELY HELD COMPANIES } that would issue mortgage securities WITH a GOVERNMENT GARANTEE,-) saying it was not yet time to determine their future shape.
Now Fannie and Freddy are kicking arse and taking names and the banks and thier Congressional Puppets are still attempting to come up with a plan to dismantle the two financial giants that are dragging us out of the hole that the U.S. Mortgage BANKERS dug for us.
Ironic isn't it ?

Sorry Doc... I thought that I had put all of that behind me. Guess not.
I will shut up about it now.
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Steel Penny

05/29/13 12:27 AM

#42373 RE: Twilson #42315

Hey, Doc.

The banks certainly deserve part of the blame. Maybe the biggest part. On the other hand, there were plenty of liars in the mix. Borrowers. Brokers. Loan insurers. Appraisers. Congress (both Parties). And even the rest of us who tried to believe that the real estate market was exempt from reality.

We who are investing in FNMA/FMCC are probably taking a lot of our time to do DD. Most of us are trying to tell others what we know so they can make informed decisions - and not seeking any payment. We're just trying to help more folks grab a piece of the pie.

I think that FNMA/FMCC will each go past $20 PS. Probably higher if the govt. will do what's best for the folks. Won't hold my breath.

Tomorrow 4.60 to 5.40. Sure gets harder to buy at these prices.
Go Mae and Mac.