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Arthur

05/04/13 2:32 PM

#42979 RE: Bjones2 #42972

It cost shareholders way more than $1.4m. The initial (NetCapital) deal was $2.6M. Most of the debentures were issued at a 45% discount, which means that only half of the value of shares issued would go towards the debt, the other 45% going to the CD holders.
Furthermore, since Pervasip was running a high operating loss all that time, it had to borrow other money, to pay its bills, again at a 45% discount. All that is causing dilution of 300% and more per year.
During all that time, revenues kept going down instead of up. The Ojo phones didn't pan out. The Android app brings an unknown, but meager revenue. The video plug-in is a joke.

The remaining debt is not negligible, it's $9M of various liabilities, including $2.7M of "long term" debt, and another $2M of convertible long-tem debt. Plus another $259K of "derivative" CD.
If the $2M gets all converted at the current share price, that will add another 800 million shares to the OS (if the SP doesn't goes down meanwhile).

Then you bring up the same fallacy than Kars did: just declare a RS, and all the dilution goes away!

Let's try with an example.

Someone holds 1 million PVSP shares, at a mean cost of $0.01
The current SP is $0.0025, that PVSP shareholder will break even (avoid losing money) if the share price goes back to $0.01.
Now comes a 100-to-1 RS.
So our shareholder now holds 10,000 PVSPQ shares, at $0.25. So far so good.
But, he still has to break even, and it will only happen if the PVSPQ share price hits $1.00.
Is he any better off ? He has one hundred times less shares now. The company's outlook is unaffected by the RS.

If we look at other penny stocks that have declared Reverse Split, history tells us that RS never "erases" dilution. Usually the companies continue both losing money and issuing more shares after the split, and their share price tanks again, hurting their shareholders.
In fact, for subpenny stocks, a RS gives the SP more room to go down.

Another example, take the company Pervasip Inc, (PVS).
In September 2010, its share price was around 8 cents a share, and it declared a 10-to-1 Reverse Split. The market after the Split opened around $0.70, the company had about 3.5M shares outstanding then.
Soon after the Split, the share price tanked to $0.15, then $0.06. About 6 months after the RS, its share price reached $0.01 a share. At that point the news of a bogus investor raised the SP to $0.10.
But the company kept on diluting. In a few years it went from 3.5M shares to 600M shares.
Soon it will reach its 800M shares AS limit.

What will it do ? Increase the AS to 1.6 billion shares ? To 2 billion ?
Or declare a RS ?

In any case, a RS will not "erase" the dilution. It will merely confirm and worsen the loss.

Cooltabby

05/05/13 12:17 AM

#42987 RE: Bjones2 #42972

Yes a reverse split to .03 and then the
dilution and journey to .00's can start
once again.

Sorry, that reasoning of yours just doesn't float the boat!

GO PVSP!

Cooltabby

05/05/13 12:36 AM

#42988 RE: Bjones2 #42972

So do you believe that the only way
to .03 is a reverse split? Sure sounds like it.


GO PVSP!!!!

madeindet

05/05/13 8:41 AM

#42991 RE: Bjones2 #42972

Don't even go there talking about a potential RS at these levels. It's about growing the revenues and buying back the dilutive stock that caused our stock to drop to these levels. The dilutive shares helped pay off the debt at the expense of the shareholders. Time to find a equity partner, not these pump & dump cd holders. Shareholders were assured by Paul that there would not be a RS. He better stick to that promise. Time for the CEO to start delivering to the Top Line and Bottomline. Lots of potential deals were named in interviews, now it's time for him to lead and deliver on those statements.