No need for a PR from P&G and we did get a PR from CC. Also PNCH didn't throw around a big name, they came. Hence no PR or gloating till things settle down and we start growing. All I care about are better and better Q's and the PPS will follow. Do I like the S/S, NO, but I have seen floats larger than ours, run higher than our 52wh. PNCH