Arrogant? are you kidding me? They are anything but arrogant. They have admitted defeat in the placer arena. They have financed the crap out of the company with terms that are very unfavorable. They are definitely unproven, and are acting as such. Both from a mining perspective, as well as from a penny stock perspective. Management is acting more like newbies than arrogant. I've contacted Macks office and am trying to arrange a face-to-face with him. I hope he accepts.