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03/15/13 12:53 PM

#55046 RE: downsideup #55026

There are already valid methods of testing fibers.


And NOBODY here has ever see ANY of amsilks methods.
Amsilk has not said they have used any method.
They have only claimed they have it.
No clue to what "comparable" means.
No testing, no methods, no facts, no support.

Amsilk claims are nonsense.

If they had ANY proof of what they claim they would have produced it just like KBLB has.

I can say I have ecoli that spin gold chain.
I can show pictures of the chain and tell the world how easy it is to do.
I can fool people into believing it. But until someone independent and reputable verifies my claims they can not be taken as fact.

KBLB has an independent and reputable report to verify their claims.
Amsilk claims are unverified and can not be taken as fact.
I do not take amsilks word for it. I am no fool
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first mike

03/16/13 1:33 AM

#55086 RE: downsideup #55026

The ABILITY to assemble spider silk proteins into fibers... has now been proven... and that changes everything.

Well,...Not Quite!
First there is the small difference between the word "proven" and the word "announced".
I believe that Amsilk has "announced" that they are now able to assemble spider silk proteins into a fiber of some sort, but a company PR is not quite exactly "proof"!
Proof would seem to me to require the examination and agreement of some unrelated third party, you know, something old fashioned and academic, like PEER REVIEW, like respected journal publication, like third party testing.
Second, the question is not so much whether the bacterial goo can be made into some sort of fiber, but whether the fiber so produced has any practical technical usability, such as by being, at the very least, stronger than standard Bombyx Mori silk fiber of the same diameter.
Given Amsilk's "last-dog-in-the-race" status, KBLB's fiber having been announced more than two years ago and Proven more than one year ago by the PNAS publication, it would in fact behoove Amsilk to compare its fiber (where compare is used in the sense here of involving actual NUMBERS and Standard Testing procedures) to KBLB's Monster Silk(TM) fiber.

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first mike

03/16/13 1:45 AM

#55088 RE: downsideup #55026

You Did?

I provided you with a link to the source.

That AMSilk are reporting the tensile strength of their fibers... says they've been tested...

(TRAILING ELLIPSES ARE IN THE ORIGINAL, NOT MY QUOTE)

I am Sorry, I must have missed this link when you last posted it.
Please post it again.
The only link I have seen from you was to Amsilk's announcement, not to their report of the testing of their fiber by some third party to substantiate their claimed tensile strength numbers?
In fact, I have not even seen any preliminary tensile strength numbers given by Amsilk.
I have examined all of your prior posts this season and I can not find any link, nor indeed any mention, of tensile strength numbers.
Please re-post that link!