Reasondeep thanks for that offer and I have been following you now for almost 2 weeks along with Dr P and Ocean as well. I do not have pm available to me yet but I will soon i think. I will continue to follow you long after CERP and I'm sure I will have lots of questions and hopefully trade back the many $ I have lost in the 12 months I have been doing this unsuccessfully until this trade I hope. Following you Dr P and Ocean on this I have learned a great deal about emotional trading (taboo) I must say. My avg cost on CERP is .051 so I'm still a little concerned but the t/a makes all the difference in holding for my first long position. Thanks again Kingmen