No need to apologise charger. I wondered if that weren't the case. I find that the pincher isn't a one stop shopping indicator as the price can still move with the trend for a bit before the reversal occurs just as I find with using divergence, but that pincher setup is pure insightful genius in it's foundation as far as I'm concerned. Even though the pinches can give early alerts, I don't find that it lies or gives false signals. I think it's a matter of discovery in accurate interpretation of patterns to be found within the setup. Same goes for the TDI. Pennies has studied the TDI and really developed a high skill of reading it. I'm playing catch up with both of you but I'm getting there surely though slowly.