I, too, have been here a while. Most of us posting on this board are not "insiders" or PP participants as Fangster was referring to. Us non-insiders are all here for the same reason: we believe the share price will appreciate substantially to offset the risk. As to the insiders, I suspect they might be privy to other information. Yes, I know that is not legal, but, this penny land. Some rules are stretched a bit. I think this is the joist of Fangster's astute observation. These folks are still hanging around.