You guys know how I feel about all this. I've stated it too any times. What with Buyants(I believe) confirming 4Js no longer offers the product and the evidence the 4 engineers came back, I feel pretty strongly that we bought back the product. An interesting aspect of the Ants website is the opening page. It cycles through 4 items. The 2 products we're aware of, a "minimize risks" page, and a "consolidation benefits" page. Now where would you guess the latter 2 take you? The first 2 are of course obvious, and you would think that the "consolidation benefits" page would take you to the ACS, but not so. Both of those other pages link to the ADS. I still see the reason for the return of the product directly related to the ACS or the AAA. One thing(of many;-)) that I'm curious about is if the ADS would run an old database any faster if the ACS was used to migrate it? Say, from Microsoft to the ADS via the ACS. C'mon, I know there's somebody out there that understands all this stuff and is just laughing at my ineptitude.