Replies to post #14118 on ANTs Software Inc. (fka ANTS)

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It's an old lawsuit.

"On July 10, 2008, Sybase, Inc. (“Sybase”), an enterprise software and services company, filed a complaint against the Company for common law unfair business practices, and tortious interference with contractual relations, among other things, in the Superior Court of the State of California, County of Alameda. Sybase was seeking an injunction and damages among other legal and equitable relief. Sybase has been changing its damages and remedies claims and is now seeking rescission of its license of certain ANTs software source code and damages in connection therewith. A trial date, initially set for August 2010, was continued to April 2011, and is now being continued again, likely to October 2011. The Company believes that this lawsuit is without merit and intends to continue vigorously defending itself while seeking a settlement beneficial to the Company."

And if Ants goes after them, good. That may get some money back. This in no way precludes Ants and SAP from doing business in the future. Companies are just like people. Complicated. Now if the animosity got too great...sure, one of them might back away, but when there's money to be made. Get real.

[Rbb1822]

There's no love lost between Ants and Sybase. Your post got me looking and I stumbled on these blasts from the past.

http://blogs.sybase.com/database/2010/07/elephants-and-ants-a-corporate-fable/

This Syase evangelist came out swinging after the IBM/Ants product announcement. The feelings run high on both sides, but make sure and read comment #2 by Warren Lucas. His qualifications are at the top of his post.
Excerpt:

"My point in mentioning the DB2 Oracle compatability on this Sybase blog is that as you start seeing the numbers coming out on the ANTs integrated DB2 SKIN software don’t be surprised if they blow you away. And then of course there are some new things in the wings."

My point in posting this is to show what knowledgable people in the industry felt was the potential of this product. Now improved I believe.

Here is an article that mentions some of the big names Ants was dealing with. Maybe we can get them interested again.

http://www.informationweek.com/software/information-management/ibm-to-migrate-sybase-customers-to-db2/225200014

Excerpt:

"Citigroup, with many instances of Sybase running among its business units, evaluated ANTs and found that it liked the stability and performance of the software in its labs, Kozak said. He recalls being called into a meeting two years ago with the Citigroup CIO, who told him he had a very strong product but his firm would not buy it from a firm with revenue of only $5.8 million in 2009. It would buy it, however, if it were offered through IBM, he
was told"

Now there was clearly a lot of animosity between Sybase(now SAP) and Ants. You act like you think just the lawsuit will prohibit any business dealings between us and SAP. I don't believe you believe that. But assuming you did, think of it like this. It must take a very special product to get SAP/Sybase to talk with us:-)