Chaarles, many of the financial institutions/banks that issued trust preferred shares years back (all with a five year deferral period) many of those deferral periods expire in 2013-2014. Other financial institutions (aside of Lehman) have been deferring interest payments and may be in danger of being in default when that time expires. Do not be surprised if the reorganized Lehman entity asks for our approval to convert our trust preferred shares into shares of the new company. Because of our prospectus guarantees, they must get our approval to do this. CIB Marine Bancshares in their chapter 11, got approval from their trust preferred shareholders to convert into the reorganized company's new common stock. My personal thought is that Lehman will have enough funds on hand to pay us past interest, and then exercise their option to redeem trust preferreds (cash us out at face value). That way, they will then be able to cut reg preferreds and commons a better slice of the new Lehman pie and look good to new Lehman investors/shareholders. IMHO