KENWONG THANKS, i've been looking at his index charts thats all.i don't subscribe. i've been looking at many places on the idexes.i don't feel to confident long or short as far as next week.acording to your system looks up . but seasonaly i always thought the market tended down oct / nov. i'm just trying to learn to catch the side of the trends. also i use scott trade to enter profunds ,but i don't get home till 3:05 .to buy or sell scottrade requires trades before 2:55 sooo i have to wait till the next day .otherwise i'd probably be in cash.so i'm still short with POKERSAM praying he's right. i'm not a daily trader more like days or weeks.any advise welcome. thanks ken dw.