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[SoxFan]

I suspect if you looked in a mirror you would also see a joke

[tinner]

Here is a list of five lies that Paul Ryan told when he gave his speech at the Republican National Convention last night. Every single news outlet should report on these lies.

1. Lie: President Obama is the "greatest threat" to Medicare.

Truth: Obama didn't make any cuts to Medicare benefits; he made cuts to provider reimbursements, to improve cost efficiency and extend the fiscal security of Medicare by eight years. According to the Medicare actuary, "[Obama's] Affordable Care Act makes important changes to the Medicare program and substantially improves its financial outlook."1

But Ryan actually does want to cut benefits. He proposed dismantling Medicare and replacing it with a voucher system, leaving millions of seniors to come up with more money to pay for care out of pocket.2,3

2. Lie: President Obama didn't save a General Motors plant in Wisconsin.

Truth: First, Obama wasn't even in office when the GM plant closed. Second, Obama never made a promise to save it.4

3. Lie: President Obama ignored recommendations of a bipartisan debt commission.

Truth: Paul Ryan actually sat on that commission. And he led Republicans in voting down the commission's own recommendation. So the commission never gave a report to Obama, because Ryan himself voted to kill the report before it could.5

4. Lie: President Obama is responsible for the downgrading of the U.S. Credit Rating

Truth: House Republicans, including Paul Ryan, held the full faith and credit of the United States hostage to try to ransom it for trillions of dollars in cuts to social programs without increasing taxes on the wealthy one dime. Standard & Poors said specifically, "We have changed our assumption on [revenue] because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues." That's why our nation's credit rating was downgraded.6,7

5. Lie: Ryan wants to protect the "weak."

Truth: Ryan's biggest feat in his political career was proposing a budget with dramatic cuts to programs benefiting the poor. He'd cut Medicaid by one third, take away health care insurance from 30 million Americans, and cut Pell Grants for 1 million students. All so that he could give more tax breaks to the rich.8

[3Saints]

poster...in case you didn't notice...the Repubs pulled the same shit with their rule changes. Was 50/50 vote at best.

[arizona1]

Having Clinton come out after Fluke's whining about women's rights and treatment is a joke.

I want to speak to your wife. Why doesn't she post?

[arizona1]

Fischer brags: Republicans going ‘back to the dawn of creation’ on women’s health

American Family Association radio host Bryan Fischer confirmed Democrats’ worst fears on Wednesday, insisting that standing for equal rights is so evil that America risks “God’s judgement” if it doesn’t join Republicans in their push for a return “to the dawn of creation” when it comes to women’s health care.

Fischer was reacting to an honest-to-goodness mini-scandal in the Christian blogs that chastises Democrats for using “luceiferian” colors at the DNC and complains about the president’s use of a black-and-white television to help illustrate that Republicans want to ban birth control and abortion by going back to 1950-era policies.

“You know, Barack Obama is out there, or the Democrats are out there, saying we want to go back, the Republicans want to take us back to the days of black and white TV,” Fischer said on Wednesday’s radio broadcast. “And I say no. We’re going way, way, way back further than that. We are going all the way back to the dawn of creation.”

He went on, apparently quite serious: “God is the one who created us male and female; God is the one who formed marriage, who created marriage, who designed it to be a union of one man and one woman for life. So we’re going way past the 1950s; we’re going clear back to the Garden of Eden.”

While that’s not exactly in the Republican Party’s platform, conservatives like Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) have been adamant about wanting to ban all abortions and even most forms of birth control by declaring fertilized embryos “people.”

This video is from the American Family Association’s “Focal Point,” broadcast Wednesday, Sept. 5, 2012.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/06/fischer-brags-republicans-going-back-to-the-dawn-of-creation-on-womens-health/

[fuagf]

poster44ny .. congratulations! .. you deserve for that post ..



because you must understand



heck



and won't show his forms .. could this maybe be you?



your neighbor?



you fact checking?



chuckle .. sorry, you don't do you .. ah ..



yes



poster44ny, do you have a credible link to support

"And that "vote" on God+Israeli's capital which clearly was split not 2/3

Clearly Obama wanted those things out at first, then saw it was
controversial so ordered them put back in after a mock vote.

Now the "no" delegates realize Obama does what Obama
wants regardless of votes in the DNC or congress."

those opinions of yours? Oh well, maybe we should understand you could be suffering a Limpbowviral infection ..

Rush Limbaugh on Clinton: ‘I don’t think he helped Obama at all last night’

By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 16 hrs ago

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(AP)

Rush Limbaugh predictably ripped the Democratic National Convention .. http://news.yahoo.com/elections/democratic-national-convention-2012/;_ylt=AiJMDA5EIzpvlEn81CcuVBNg24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTFka3BkYnE0BG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM1N3U3cGFjBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDOTkxNWZiODUtNWY5Zi0zMGMzLWFmNmEtNWVhODQ0NGJjOWRkBHBzdGNhdANwb2xpdGljc3x0aGV0aWNrZXQEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=3 .. [ long left for you .. LOLOL .. "Connection refused" .. God to Limbaugh ] .. on his syndicated radio show on Thursday, calling Wednesday's display "one of the worst, flattest, most embarrassing days for a political party at its convention in the history of conventions."

"The media and a lot of Democrats think the election's over because of last night," Limbaugh said. "They think last night's convention was a home run, a grand-slam home run. I'm telling you, the truth is that, in terms of average Americans watching what's going on, yesterday and last night was an absolute disaster for the Democrats."

Surprisingly, the conservative shock jock barely made mention of Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown law student whom Limbaugh called a "slut" and "prostitute" for her testimony about contraception earlier this year.

Instead, Limbaugh lambasted what he called the left's "idolatry" of former President Bill Clinton, Wednesday's keynote speaker in Charlotte, N.C.

"I'm telling you, they see Bill Clinton in a way that the vast majority of Americans do not," Limbaugh said. "Any party that would bring Bill Clinton out and highlight him and Ted Kennedy while at the same time claiming to have love and devotion, respect for women, is insane."

[Related: Schumer: 'If every American watched that speech the election would be over']
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/clinton-convention-speech-dnc-reaction-145132000--election.html

Limbaugh, who admitted he didn't watch Clinton's entire speech ("I got bored"), tried to calm conservatives who were "panicked" that the former president might give President Barack Obama a bounce in the polls:

I don't know how many of you are panicked because you think Clinton did well last night, but you have to keep in mind, the Democratic Party and the media all wish they were sleeping with Clinton. There is a slave-ish, irrational, love-like attachment to this guy that is irrational, and it's not rooted in reality.

I don't think he helped Obama at all last night. You know, Obama's waiting backstage to come out and accept accolades and stand in the great light of Bill Clinton, and what did Clinton do? Make him wait 'til 11:30, when the football game is at its most exciting.

"I think Clinton's out there for Clinton," Limbaugh continued. "[What] he wanted to do was tell the audience that his [first] four years smoked Obama's. He couldn't just come out and say that."

The outspoken host then crudely mocked Chris Matthews' "verbal orgasm over Bill Clinton's speech."

"Chris Matthews probably had to wear an athletic supporter to hide the bulge," Limbaugh said. "No wonder [Tom] Brokaw had to go to the hospital this morning."

Limbaugh even mocked what Brokaw said led to the dizzy spell that forced his brief hospitalization: "The Kennedy driving excuse—He took half an Ambien."

[Also read: Older, skinny Clinton is the wonky math-master Dems need]

But Fluke was rarely mentioned during Limbaugh's three-hour show.

After playing a clip of political analyst Cokie Roberts asserting that Fluke's convention speech was well-received in the hall, Limbaugh said, "Let me tell you what really happened. A lot of them were saying, 'What was this doing in prime time?'"

Instead, the law student skewering from the right was left to Ann Coulter,
who on Wednesday tweeted: "Bill Clinton just impregnated Sandra Fluke backstage."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rush-limbaugh-clinton-speech-dnc-obama-195313751--election.html

.. an embedded video and a couple more links in there .. oh, remind me how much of Limbaugh's deals with any fact at all ..