you and I are kinda on the same page, Xtreme called 0.25 and the guys in Israel say 15-20 ,
being that I am realistic, 0.05-0.06 and 0.10 if were lucky is more what I am looking at :-)
SDSS sure looks better , no doubt about that.
I do know about a year ago we were sitting @ 0.10 , now 0.10 will be a fight IMHO.