I look at it as a whole. Whether its a test store or lock down tight full blown deal. It's an attempt. The Fins are relevent such as we don't hear anything about HD, LOWES, WALMART, LANCASTER, OR FLORIDA DIST. we find that out by seeing financials. If nitty gritty details were given about how much they purchase at any given time would not be business like or fair to the purchasers or firms. They all details are up for constant critisisim because they maybe ordered one less pallet. Totally disreguarding the fact that they are still buying. Even you have agreed that what really counts is when the fins come out, SHOW ME THE #'s. To me that says are we going up or down sideways or flat. That's where the truth is. It's year over year quarter over quarter. Not today, tommorow,or 90 day talk.