nuke, thank you for the post. The reality is that most the investing world is still hanging back, and only because there are no hard numbers. PPHM is trading very small dollar volume even though it has moved up dramatically lately for no apparent reason other than a need to stay on the NASDAQ board. And the relatively low-level total dollar value allows the stock to be inexpensively manipulated to trap a few more dollars. At this point all results remain anecdotal and rumor. Investing in PPHM remains speculative, but among old-timers here there seems to be a consensus that things are different this time. If management is flaunting numbers, as you suggested,they're flaunting what to date they do not have...only what they are projecting...and all bets are off until the numbers crunchers make a pronouncement. It's conceivable the latter are the holdup. Could be a squeaker. I've predicted that once some time ago. Could also be a miracle. The point is that at this moment all possible story endings are still possible here. Fairy tale ending? I would love it. I agree wholeheartedly when you said: "Not reaching an endpoint is just as relevant and maybe more relevant in this case than reaching it." You asked if I think you're jumping out ahead of yourself, and I think so, but it's a reasonable bet, and getting better daily. Besides, getting out ahead of your competition is how you make the high dollars. Good luck nuke...and y'all.