Yes! local certs are collecting dust in dusty drawers. Thank heavens John Bordynuik developed and spread the word about this company for everyone to share in the P20 pie. If it wasnt for his technical genius P20 would have never gotten off the ground. Until Bordynuik did it, no one before him succeeded enough to satisfy any State agency. Everyone is very proud of JBIIs accomplishments. All of those involved have done a fantastic job at making this company an investment of a lifetime.