It's too bad you can't back track and find out which mm is doing the buying and selling for APS and the host company and you could watch their moves. With hidden bids and fake walls it would seem someone is violating SEC. But with millions of transactions daily it would take a supercomputer to figure it all out and if you had that money we wouldn't be here playing penny stocks. Play it to win and you do lose keep it small and wait for the next big one. GWBU