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stitch_surfs

08/27/05 9:08 AM

#17054 RE: wiredog #17052

Doggiestyle...I said nothing about Comcast. I simply volunteered to explain QOS since people were discussing it and seemed somewhat unclear, however I also deferred to your vast knowledge of every protocol ever invented...and of course your ego had its way with you. Congratulations. Just like pavlov's...
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Michael Allard

08/27/05 10:38 AM

#17059 RE: wiredog #17052

Wiredog:

You wrote:
"COMCAST needs no QOS because it does not travel over the internet...."

Wrong again. Jeez, for someone who works at or with Comcast you should know better. Do we need to teach you what the internet is? Comcast does connect to the Public Telephone network earlier than say a Skype does. But using the cable infrastructure from homes to their termination point is the internet, is VoIP, and does use QOS on this portion. But why am I telling you this? You already know it.

And even your first line: "...when error correction (which is the usual method) would be useless because voice calls must be immediate..."

"Useless" is a little strong since this is exatly how Skype and the other cheap VoIP services work. It is also why the quality of these services is sub par to the likes of Comcasts service and is why ASNAP (for Voice service) can not work effectively on "every" WiFi hotspot out there.



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plaintif2000

08/27/05 1:53 PM

#17068 RE: wiredog #17052

you are so wrong, u r the poser, they have tons of people
using the cable infrastructure for broadband, they have to
maintain qos for calls coming in over the net from outside the
system, as everyone knows unlike dsl cable bandwith decreases
w/ the number of users, you view of qos is quite narrow,
any heavily trafficed network will need it, its the law of
supply and demand, things must be prioritzed, a priori a
large network has no such prioritization w/ out some kind
of server system to differentiate between the importance of
the information, its not just about error checking its about
maintianing a BIMODAL connection between network routing
points w/ out any time outs
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plaintif2000

08/27/05 2:26 PM

#17073 RE: wiredog #17052

i got confused and thought you were stictch please explain
how comcast gets around qos?