Hog wash!!! Still don't get it.
"Them against us", you say?
Still completely convinced of one party's correctness over another?
It doesn't matter if it's the left OR right boot on your neck.
A boot is on your neck.
You are still a war hawk carrying the water for the military-industrial-corporate complex, a NeoCon, front to back side to side, up and down.
You do not advocate the Sovereign rights to self- determination.
What you, and those like you, propose may be the end of mankind.