I agree and I hope that soon Shiva wakes realizing that his lack of experience on the business end is very detrimental to the tech side of Tivus. That's why I was happy that jwez and waggett were going to Philly. I thought that Shiva would not just listen but would hear what those two had to say concerning how we shareholders felt he was screwing up the business end of this one in a million opportunities. Hope all is well with you.