geo58, that is why I have been asking for who participated as "the team", that went to the conference in Ca., and yet did not have a booth or show any advertisements for tggi,versa green or federalLED. Where did the funds for that trip come from? I also asked where are their products manufactured, all I got was a reference to a contrator installer in the Tampa area. You might be on the right track with this company being used for the benefit of other entities at the expense of tggi shareholders. JMHO