InvestorsHub Logo
icon url

hedrick_c

03/28/12 10:56 PM

#54747 RE: recinvestor #54745

I am unable to send a private msg but I am really excited to see the pictures. If you are up for it... topherhedrick@gmail.com
icon url

EALANO

03/28/12 11:01 PM

#54749 RE: recinvestor #54745

Excellent info and DD. Thanks Rec!
icon url

Damon646

03/28/12 11:05 PM

#54752 RE: recinvestor #54745

Fantastic! Thanks for the hard work. Glta
icon url

ravencrest

03/28/12 11:11 PM

#54753 RE: recinvestor #54745

Thank you for all of the info. Much appreciated!
icon url

@realToothFairy

03/29/12 12:05 AM

#54757 RE: recinvestor #54745

Good job...... Any idea when this process will be patented or applied for? At any time while you were with Judahntoday did you feel like you were talking with a car salesperson? The oils are a bit much even for a regular user, good thing you did not try it. I do not like using the oil, it is not at all the same as bud. Thanks
icon url

mmjtrader

03/29/12 12:22 AM

#54760 RE: recinvestor #54745

I'm still trying to figure out who the A list celebrity is but haven't got a clue. Anybody have some realistic guesses based on what Rec mentioned.
icon url

LivinLarge8

03/29/12 3:20 AM

#54787 RE: recinvestor #54745

RECINVESTOR'S VISIT TO OTHERSIDE HEALTH MANAGEMENT WITH PICTURE OF PROTOTYPE AND RFMK Due Diligence Links through March 20, 2012

recinvestor Share Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:43:34 PM
Re: None Post # of 54784

UPDATED My visit with Judah at OHM.


I have some additional updates to add to my original post. The updated information is all in italics. I decided to update after reading the boards and some of the responses. I did post pictures earlier but then thought better of it and had Admin take them down at my request. If you want to see a picture of me with the prototype, you can PM me, but don't forget to add your personal e-mail address. I can't PM back. I DO NOT want my picture shared! Soon enough, I'm sure RFMK will have pictures that can be shared.

Shipment
The shipment is supposed to arrive tomorrow from DHL. The Cannacig is coming from Hong Kong. Once everything arrives, Judah and his team will be responsible for packaging everything and placing on their shelves. Judah pointed out a clear spot on the shelf waiting for....?

The shipment needs to clear customs. Judah didn't seem to think it would be a problem because there is no THC, CBD, or Nicotine juice loaded in the Cannacigs. That makes it easier when dealing with customs. He did not directly say they had cleared customs, and I didn't ask, sorry.

Number of units
Judah would not and could not specify how many units. Tom and RFMK are the only ones that can provide that information.

Demand
The demand is strong. Judah said he has many contacts in the cannabis sector and they're getting requests from the website vinhaler.com from people and places he hasn't even heard of.

Pricing

Judah would not disclose the pricing. That has to come from RFMK.

There was another vaporizer he had, I forget the name but I think it was called e-joint? He said that one sells for $70. It came in a cheap box, and inside was a plastic bag with a small usb charger and the e-joint. Hopefully the packaging of the Cannacig will be better.

Pocket Puffer and Power Puffer
These two newer products are Judah's babies. This is where there is mucho potential. These can be sold and shipped anywhere as they will basically just be the shell.

The Cannacig
The technology could not be discussed for proprietary reasons. The Cannacig can only be sold through dispensaries. Initially OHM's new delivery service will be delivering Cannacig's WITH the PIRD to dispensaries in CA. Once the PIRD process is patented, Cannacig's can be shipped without the PIRD, THC, CBD, other ways, and other dispensaries can license the process and do it on site if they want to do it exactly how OHM does it.

The PIRD can't be patented, but the process can said Judah.
I went through a lot just to get my mj card today with the partial intention of getting a Cannacig and using it to assist in managing my chronic back pain from a sports injury. That is the appeal to me, no harmful effects from the inhalation of smoke and all the carcinogens. However, I did not try the prototype Cannacig because I am not a pot smoker and I did not know what the effects would be on me. Despite my most excellent driving skills, I didn't want to risk anything. But Judah was "vaping" on it while I was there.

Celebs
Judah has an entertainment background and has a couple celebrity friends and at least one A lister on board for the special edition models. The A lister is someone on television whose character smokes weed. He would not disclose the celebrity despite several attempts on my part. BUT, he did say it was NOT Snoop...sorry for those who were hopeful it would be him...

The team
Judah is definitely a driving force on the front line in dealing with distribution. He's going to do everything he can to make this a huge success!
Tom's new position as CEO is exactly the way it was discussed in the shareholder update. He has a total feel and sense for business.
Mike is the creative mind who knows the technical stuff behind the design.

Funding

I asked Judah if he knew anything about this. He said that's Tom's business and that only he could verify anything.

Another customer in the store
There was a regular at OHM hanging at the hash bar, or whatever they call it. He knew of the Cannacig and has tried it too. He thought it was great for a few obvious reasons as he pointed to several big glass bongs that you just couldn't use openly walking down Hollywood Blvd. or out in public without looking ridiculous. I got the point.

OHM Dispensary surroundings
The hash bar was cool, at least for my first visit to a dispensary. They have a loung area and game room kind of area. When I signed in at the front (of course had to fill out forms like you would on your first doctors visit) I saw about 25 names signed in before and it was about 1:00 ish. They opened at 10:00 am. I'm sure it gets much busier after hours, as in when people are done with work. After all today was a Wednesday. They also have happy hour specials. Basically what I'm saying is that there are probably way more people that visit. It was nice to see they already had a couple dozen visitors though.

My overall conclusion
Judah was very nice and answered some of my direct questions and talked openly about a lot of what I've just shared. BUT, he was careful not to answer some of my direct questions that need to be addressed by RFMK, not him. I've tried to cover as much as I can remember, but I was there for well over an hour and can't possibly notate every single word.

Final word
I am just an ordinary person who decided to make an investment. I happen to live close enough to OHM and decided to take a trip over now that I have my mj card. Anyone else could have done the same thing and asked different questions, and perceived things any number of ways. I am not recommending a buy or a sell, just sharing with everyone my experience.

One last thing Judah and I kind of laughed about was the fact that he reads the boards when he can. He has been tempted to respond because certain things and words stated get taken way out of context. He mentioned writing a post one time stating that if only people knew what he knew etc...Of course when you have the complete picture, or most of it like Judah, it could be funny seeing and or reading what other people are saying. The reason I bring this up is because some of the posts I've read take some of what I've shared out of context. No worries, understandable. But I kind of understand what he's saying now.

Go RFMK!
Rec




RFMK Due Diligence Links through March 20, 2012.

Someone on the board asked for these earlier today, so I worked on this throughout the day and have added my brief comments. Of course there is so much more due diligence out there, these are just the ones that have come directly from RFMK's shareholder updates and PR's.

New investors should read the PR’s and Shareholder updates from most recent to furthest back. You’ll have a much better understanding for everything that has happened.

PR 3-20-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-and-otherside-health-management-launch-vinhaler-com-for-cannacig-and-follow-on-products-the-pocket-puffer-is-announced
New website launched. Many questions answered just from navigating through this new site. Pictures, technology, future products and branding, online shop, pre-orders, wholesalers section, Q & A section, contact info, etc.

Everyone can now see how every aspect in earlier PR’s and updates have started coming together.

Shareholder Update 3-19-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/update-to-shareholders-18-march-2012
Tom Allinder discusses new roles for company principals and gives future guidance.

PR 3-16-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-announces-tom-allinder-new-ceo
Tom Allinder named new CEO of RFMK. On track for product launch by end of March 2012. Incoming offers to fund long term production from diverse investment groups.

PR 3-9-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-updates-cannacig-progress
RFMK and OHM’s very own Cannacig Gen 2 prototype completed and in depth details offered. Branding and marketing discussed. New joint RFMK and OHM website in development to handle sales of follow-on brands and merchant accounts for sales of units.

PR 3-1-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-files-for-trademark-cannacig-shipping-to-dispensaries-throughout-california-in-march
Trademark registered for their new Cannabis Vaporizer Inhaler (CVI). Timeline set for their in house produced Cannacig Gen 2 to be on shelves by end of March 2012. Using OHM’s connections and ideas, celebrity editions, etc.

PR 2-28-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-executes-agreement-with-otherside-health-management
Contract signed with Otherside Health Management (OHM) and details of their collaboration laid out. Introducing OHM’s Judah Neiditch – industry veteran with extensive knowledge, ideas, and contacts within the MMJ sector.

Shareholder Update 2-24-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-update-to-shareholders-24-february-2012
Explaining the delay in finalizing the big contract they have stated is close to being done.

Again, in hindsight it all makes perfect sense why it took so long to get this contract agreed upon due to the huge undertaking in covering everything that we now all know.

Shareholder Update 2-17-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/shareholder-update-for-rapid-fire-marketing-17-february-2012
Still working to finalize big contract in forming an agreement that will cover North America and overseas countries. RFMK is placed on a Trade for Trade restriction.

In hindsight everything makes perfect sense knowing now that the Vapor Inhaler (Pocket Puffer) can be sold any and everywhere through normal retail outlets. The contract they were putting together with OHM would indeed need to be very comprehensive, thus the delays. The Trade for Trade designation debate begins. It has arguably been a good thing…

Shareholder Update 2-14-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/shareholder-update-for-rapid-fire-marketing-14-february-2012
Working to finalize big contract. Assurance to investors that they will indeed bring product to shelves in grand fashion.

In hindsight, this is the time they were working with Otherside Health Management (OHM a well known and connected dispensary in Los Angeles) in forming the agreement they have in place now.

Shareholder Update 2-7-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/shareholder-update-for-rapid-fire-marketing-7-february-2012
Dilution of 20 Million shares. Funder used for distributing the 20 Million shares also decided to sell out of their position all together which caused excessive trading of over 100 Million shares in a day causing people to question the company.

In hindsight, the 20 Million share dilution was most likely to fund Cannacig Gen 2 research and development and production.

PR 2-6-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-cannacig-to-see-immediate-and-significant-distribution
Agreement with 10 non profit dispensaries for immediate placement of Cannacig Gen 1.

In hindsight, the original plan was probably to have a licensing agreement with THC Scientific to use their Omicron Ecig, but with RFMK’s Cannacig logo, but this never happened as they decided to go a different route. In the meantime, as word spread about the Cannacig Gen 2 being developed, the Cannacig Gen 1 was lost in the shuffle and dispensaries decided to wait until Cannacig Gen 2 was launched.

Shareholder Update 1-31-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/shareholder-update-31-jan-2012
THC Scientific’s Ecig called Omicron being used in effort to save money in production, realizing strong interest from all over, looking for avenues for distribution beyond CA, asking for investors continued input.

In hindsight, we can now see this is probably where RFMK started to realize this is bigger than they expected. Hurried Cannacig Gen 1 to market in order to start over from scratch on a new plan for Cannacig Gen 2.

Shareholder Update 1-27-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rfmk-shareholder-update-27-january-2012
Working on getting Cannacig trademarked, more harvest cycle numbers expected, future move to OTCBB, taking shareholders input into consideration.

PR 1-25-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-first-edition-of-thc-e-cig-goes-to-market
Cannacig Gen 1 ready for market. Cannacig Gen 2 in development, 30-60 days for Gen 2

Shareholder Update 1-24-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/thc-e-cig-new-photos
first photos of new THC E-cig called Cannacig. Ready in less than 30 days.

PR 1-19-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-medical-cannabis-management-reports-completion-of-first-harvest-cycle
reporting harvest cycle (aka crop numbers) from MCM non profit agreements.
MCM is under the umbrella of Rapid Fire Marketing and provides consulting services within the medical cannabis sector

PR 1-4-12
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-medical-cannabis-management-now-in-production-with-new-thc-e-cig
in production, distribution channels to be announced when agreements signed, ready for market within 30 days

Shareholder update 12-7-11
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/investor-update-7-december-2011
RFMK website update addressing questions about who the producer is, etc.

PR 12-7-11
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-medical-cannabis-management-has-producer-for-thc-e-cig-production-to-begin-immediately
contract with producer for the THC cartridges

PR 12-1-11
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-medical-cannabis-managements-thc-e-cig-will-provide-a-revolutionary-new-delivery-method
finding a producer to fill the THC cartridges

PR 11-29-11
http://rapid-fire-marketing.com/rapid-fire-marketing-medical-cannabis-management-unveils-new-product
announcement of THC E-Cig development stages

LONG AND STRONG! GO RFMK!
Rec
icon url

kelseyf

03/29/12 7:38 AM

#54796 RE: recinvestor #54745

Number of units
Judah would not and could not specify how many units. Tom and RFMK are the only ones that can provide that information.
Pricing
Judah would not disclose the pricing. That has to come from RFMK.



Interesting two of the most important pieces of information that a RFMK sharholder needs at yet still RFMK (Tom) will not disclose. Yup IMO a great way for any interested party to consider RFMK except the blind!!

The shipment needs to clear customs. Judah didn't seem to think it would be a problem because there is no THC, CBD, or Nicotine juice loaded in the Cannacigs. That makes it easier when dealing with customs. He did not directly say they had cleared customs, and I didn't ask, sorry.


IMO keep this one on the RFMK radar screen for the next possible excuse by RFMK for further delay.

The Cannacig is coming from Hong Kong.



The last Ka-zoo's that I purchase from China lasted about 2 days, I wonder if RFMK as performed quality control on this product.....but wait shipment is suppose to arrive tomorrow for immediate shelving??? I wonder who is responsible for any product defect and liability????

Shipment
The shipment is supposed to arrive tomorrow from DHL.



One would have thought since this product was "IMMEDIATE" for distribution as stated by RFMK back in January that from a business perspective that RFMK would have developed an arrival date say 03/15/12 to allow for any possible delay time due to shipping and Customs...LOL.......Right. But instead to try and cover for more time RFMK indicates EOM and not a date of arrrival as 03/30/12 basically last day of the month. Now is this just me or this there a continuous problem developing here with this "Product on the shelves by EOM"

Good thing that April's Fool Day is on a Sunday and not a day that the market is open for trading. IMo this weekend is going to allow RFMK to do alot of backpeddling, I'll bet the RFMK website will be running overtime this weekend.

AIMHO
Kels