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Trinityz1

03/26/12 2:29 AM

#235742 RE: fuagf #235741

see...it's self evident

no Aussie examples
no- this is how it is down under

just all USA stuff and Rah-Rah Obama
like it's straight out of VA....

what a waste.....


and now you should be quiet......some children shouldn't even be seen, let alone heard, like an ugly stepchild down under

shhhhhh.....the adults are talking now......

quick! ask the handler:
good grief, since I blew it! Now what do I do to salvage my poor down under char!

no wonder we're in debt wasting $ on such harlots

IxCimi

03/26/12 2:51 AM

#235748 RE: fuagf #235741

ADL????

Man what a closet Commie.

Lotsa people get their tactics wrong. That doesn't mean they ARE wrong, or evil or stupid, or that their sentiments are wrong...

It means their approach is wrong.


SOROS

03/26/12 4:03 PM

#235768 RE: fuagf #235741

After reading the headlines about the US soldier who shot up Afghanistan civilians, I couldn't help noticing an irony. There is
all this clamor to try this guy quickly and execute him, never mind his having suffered a traumatic brain injury.

Yet this Major Hasan, who shot up Fort Hood while screaming Allah akbar, still hasn’t stood trial, and they are still debating whether he was insane, even with the clear evidence regarding his motive:
slay as many infidels as possible. So we have a guy in a war zone who cracks, and he must be executed immediately.

But this Muslim psychiatrist who was stateside in a nice safe office all day murders 13, wounds 29 of our own guys, and they try to argue the poor lad suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome, from listening to real soldiers who had actual battle experience. Two and a half years later, they still haven’t tried the murderous bastard.

fuagf

03/26/12 9:55 PM

#235835 RE: fuagf #235741

The Redemption Pitch .. oh yes it's very dark and obtuse ..

2. The Pitch

The Redemption scheme, at its heart, consists of the bizarre notion that a bankrupt United States converted the physical bodies of its citizens into assets against which it could sell bonds, and that knowledgeable people can “redeem” these assets and, through manipulating them and various imagined accounts, use them to their advantage. Much of the rhetoric is, as is common with “sovereign citizen”/”common law” theories, nearly incomprehensible and often laced with Biblical references used as points of law.[3] Moreover, also common with such theories, the language is often deliberately obtuse, so that the explanation is difficult to follow. The reason for this is that when people who attempt the strategies run afoul with authorities, proponents can claim that the strategy was simply not applied correctly and that correctly following the steps would certainly result in victory. This rationale was used previously by proponents of the various bogus money order schemes common in the early to mid 1990s, as well as in numerous other scams developed by patriot theorists.

Hmm, yes the bold bit .. we've seen that view expressed here before .. anyway, if you
want more on Redemption the above bit is from this link in the one this is in reply to ..

"The sovereign citizen, Jerry Kane, was a “guru” in the movement who traveled around the country, often with his teenaged son Joseph, holding seminars in which he would teach his anti-government conspiracies and pseudo-legal “solutions.” Kane specialized in a set of sovereign citizen theories called “Redemption;” .. http://www.adl.org/mwd/redemption.asp .. he told audiences that his theories could get them out of their mortgages."