the best I can tell you is that the short sellers are still beating this one up, or we are done with the pump and dump time, or this is just a dead stock with a dead fake company. I am just not happy with these here people right now. you can wait on the side lines and see when it gets pumped or buy a little and wait. I have some at .035 and am still waiting , if it drops down to .01 then I guess I will have to take a loss and accept it.