I agree with you about the conversions and another 45 million hitting the market will keep investors away unless there is substantial news to be able to sell through them. If we were on the nasdaq a huge institutional investor could eat them up but here we play by different rules. An investors conference call is one thing and makes people feel warm and fuzzy but it will take time for the investment world to grasp what the company is capable of. There is still to many variables that could come into play to keep the pps down and we have seem some of these already. I'll keep holding for awhile but I wont wait until 2014. Slide has hit this stock on the nose and everyone has ridiculed him for it.