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Ranb2khz

01/31/12 3:39 PM

#9788 RE: PianoMan75 #9787

I concur!


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ksuave

01/31/12 4:26 PM

#9792 RE: PianoMan75 #9787

In my time in penny stocks, I've seen an overwhelming number of promoters use the same old tactics time and time again to encourage buying, and posting all day about level 2 activity is definitely one of them.

Yes, mm's will definitely take advantage of people when they can, but manipulate a stock that rarely trades over $10k a day -- not likely.
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Cassandra

01/31/12 9:38 PM

#9798 RE: PianoMan75 #9787

Short sale data explained by FINRA...
(From another forum)

SHORTS data explained by FINRA...phone call 3 minutes ago i spoke to FINRA regarding their daily SHO list which seems to show 30-70 % of all the volume in thousands of stocks as 'short sales'. they explained the 2 factors which tend to inflate the short sale data beyond what is normally considered a short sale, i.e. a person or firm borrowing shares which are then sold.

1. all marketmaker sells to buyers for which the MM doesnt at that moment possess the stock would go onto the list. the shorts data is sent to SEC at time of execution, so during the course of a day, a MM may trade 20M shares of company xyz, of which 10M of those shares were initiated as short sales and the other 10M were buys to cover those shorts. despite the fact that their net position at the end of the day is flat, the data would show 10M shares as having been short sales. this applies even to grey sheet stocks. despite the fact there is no MM making bids and asks, MM's can and do call around to other MM's to find willing sellers to match buy orders and vice-versa.

2. the other factor that could affect the daily short figure is very interesting. if a sale is being initiated by the holder of restricted 144 stock, even though the owner of those shares is technically a long, the sale is listed as a short sale because the actual certificates are not yet "clean" via the transfer agent.

they confirmed that in order to ascertain the true "open short" position one should look at the bi-monthly short report. it was also stated that any of the daily shorts which were not delivered within the prescribed time would definitely end up on the FTD list.

Original source: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63945167

SMKY biweekly short data: http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/SMKY/short-sales

January daily short data (ORF section for OTC stocks): http://regsho.finra.org/regsho-January.html

Short sale delivery requirements: http://finra.complinet.com/en/display/display.html?rbid=2403&element_id=9398