I have a lot of family close to them and to be honest they don't hide from investors very well but I'm not trying to make issues yet. I want truth and not lies from the company and as weird as it sounds I think something BIG is up. I think they are holding this down so lots of people keep putting there shares on the ask and then I'm thinking with one big buy they will take all the shares say 100 million..or they may wait for 200-300 million to be on the ask.. I still hold onto this small hope that's why I haven't gone into creating problems.. I like most of you have something like negative - $20,000 invested in this.