sorry----I have to disagree----if you use ,for ptel,------AS of 100 million OS of 50 million and annual rev of 10 million----do a spin off and go immediately to nasdaq---ptel pps of anywhere between .25---$ 40.00 is "do-able" ----"for ptel"------tia-------------------pure speculation-------oh,and this puts ol shorty on the run and teaches them MMs a lesson !!