It's really becoming a question of how many times they are going to "promise" an IPO, and it just not happen.......The latest promise was Nov, and if not, then by the end of the year.......If we wait through most of Dec, and they make a new promise of "sometime in early 2012", then it's simply not at all likely to happen early 2012, or for that matter, EVER........I'm beginning to suspect that to hold off "forever", may be more profittable for Tsingda, since a short time ago, they had a large sum of money fall into their hands........Maybe they just keep holding off, and that happens for them again, and again........