And yet the company has continued to survive after all of these revelations; Why?, because there is a demand for a cheaper phone. How?, thanks to 'average-downers' like myself, who are not necessarily 'doe-eyes', but realize THERE IS A MARKET FOR A CHEAPER PHONE. We are getting 'tighter' with our support, however, and it will be interesting to see what happens after July 7. If Hop-on survived February 2002, will it also survive July 2005? As of now, I think so...