Yes! and if I can quote your fearless Leader " some people are as thick as planks" The Pino`s portion of this scam was in May of 2005. While Art Gecko`s statement of a reverse Merger of 60 Million in assets was in August of 2005. That statement was materially false and misleading. Or is yet to be proven. I don`t understand why some have a problem understanding that. It is almost as though some want to deflect what happened on this board in AUGUST 2005. Why is that?