I've been a long ever since but I have to admit that most pinks are scams one way or the other, and this POS is looking and smelling the same; another thing there is nothing wrong with flipping, most of the flippers are smart investors whom know when to get in and get out before the shit hits the fan. I hold 30 million shares and I am holding to see if this SOB Kuni comes through. I have done a lot of research through out these pinks and one thing I have learned is that most longs become flippers and it happens when you get burned to many times, so you know what, if I can get out of this crap you damn right I will end of flipping.