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corey

06/19/05 12:58 PM

#24880 RE: Joe R #24879

Joe, I think you hit the nail on the head!!
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neilbolton

06/19/05 11:56 PM

#24901 RE: Joe R #24879

Joe R

Macrovisions claim of 144 mil cds has been around for a number of years. I recall Kenco making that claim, and posting some article in support of the assertion more than 2 years ago. The CDs were released outside the US, and were the old Macrovision protection which had playability issues. If I recall the various posts correctly, a number of suits were filed against them for the CDs.

Actually Macrovision are claiming 450M CDs in their press releases. My statement about EMI using 145M CDs is incorrect. That should have read 127M. And according to the article, that is coming from the label....

The labels say such technical glitches are a thing of the past. EMI has distributed more than 127 million copy-protected discs in 48 countries with few customer complaints.

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/11898486.htm

As I said yesterday, we can stick our heads in the sand and pretend it is all lies, or we can just be realistic about it.

As far as I know, there is no independent body counting how many CDs are protected by which technology. Macrovision, like SunnComm and F4I, would base their statements on figures from manufacturing. We either assume they are upfront or they are lying.

What verification is there that SunnComm produced 10M CDs in 2004? I have seen fairly recent statements from BMG saying they copy protected 5M CDs in the US, so that would be part verification of half of SunnComm's count. But I have seen nothing that verifies the rest. But I see no reason to dispute SunnComm's figure. All I am saying is that you have to take both companies statements at face value, because there is no means available to anyone outside the companies themselves (perhaps apart from the auditors) to verify whether the claims are true or not.