Mamona - I had you pegged for a basher, maybe still you are. But since you appear to have a realistic grip on the idiots who want to add $14,600 debt per US family this coming federal FY, I guess I am ready to hear you a bit. So why are you on the TRGD/TARM boards? What is your skin in the game and how can I know for sure? Many of your past posts just stunk like paid bash and no other Mamona profile computed.