And a reduction in the A/S the 10q is gonna be late as expected that will give me the info Im Looking for. sorry i dont feel need to live in he said she said realm. Vincent still hold the class A and hasnt filed to covert or a file 4 to show he sold. Last 10Q sec filining stated that gates is investing 600k over the next 12 quarters. Ill wait to see if that has changed or if this may be a way of spin off with the share reduction. some of you need to chill not like you could sell atm if you wanted to. one says hes called 1000x no response claim scam and fraud but wont call gates att. on the matter. Ill sit back and shift thru the bullshit on both sides and make my own choices when the time is right for me.