i totally agree! However day traders don't care about the longterm or philosophies of a company and penny stocks are a day traders moneymaker, not long term holds. that being said, seems like the day guys are in and out of this without it bottoming out so there is an obvious foundation set here at $.08 or so and it should only be able to go up with or without the day player and market maker games. thats it for me, watching a few other bio picks for next week and the week after which i will share with the board once i have completed my dd and decided if i should buy.