Agree! But not only that, If Nortel get over $5 Billion, Creditors will get paid and then what?? What Nortel is going to do with the extra Billions?? What their going to do with their $ 1.6 Billion in NOL?? If they cancel commons they lose those $1.6 Billion in NOL..... But those $ 1.6 Billion in tax credits could be a "treasure" for another company that doesn't want to pay taxes....